I read their Bob Jones and ABWE reports. But in the meantime, if the Church needs to be sued, for its own sake, I can see this as a temporary justice of sorts, yes. We have decided to redact his name for the sake of privacy. -This post is focusing on Peter Newman due to his relationship with Fellowship Memphis. Same thing with a LOT of Big Name Net Presences the ones who literally live in their Mommys Basement, Building Their Brand 24/7/365 on Social Media after Social Media (I KNOW of one a local Professional Fanboy character whos a laughingstock to everyone who knew him FTF but is A Major Playa Social Media Celebrity with 50,000+ Facebook followers. I have never been in a hyper authoritarian church, but let me contribute this to the conversation. I should add, thanks for the head-up. It. To say his affect was hypnotic, would be an understatement. Ive posted the video here a few times of Greg Loves talk at DTS. Mark Driscoll is an evil man. For the evangelical the evil world is the enemy/ opposition to be conquered. So they took theirs and snuck into the bathroom at night and texted her about their day. Patterson might have been a politician, but his staff was pretty academically diverse. You could argue PR would be a reason to keep things quite at fellowship when something bad happened on their watch, but retaining a person on staff who is a child predator and actually has been arrested for that is bad PR! What were some of the allegedactivities? We mostly went to the amusement park, which has been there since 1960, according to wiki. He just started high school. And I do wonder how many of these people call themselves pro-life. Theres a difference between being anti-abortion and pro-life: you have to actually care for and about those who have been born *in addition to* those who havent. Absolutely, you have the most gullible, naive followers all gathered in one place, you have children that have mostly been trained to respect authority and silence their objections to things, and you are probably in the place that is the most safe from prosecution that there is in our society. he might have done this but what have you done? Pedophiles work in much the same manner with the exception they seem to have much more patience in preparing their victims and their enablers. They met at a Youth Life event in 1999, a decade before the prayer-request phone call. Thats not what being a Christian means. Newmans inappropriate nudity and private sleepovers with boys were not disclosed to the public, including John Doe IXs parents until after Kanakuk was sued by one of Newmans sexual abuse victims in 2011.. In fact, Ive heard this scenario play out so many times that I am very suspicious of people who seem to have everything together so well- too well. Pete was one of the most passionate, enthusiastic and sincere (seeming) believers I had ever met. Those poor zebras and giraffes. (Im sure there were campers getting together in high school but thats sort of normal). They still are highly sought after and do meticulous work. Like Karen Hinckley at Villiage. many Calvinista leaders believe that God is so with them and their election and awesome leadership that nothing bad could ever happen to them. Its just my opinion based on my experience with institutional cultures. It affects him to this day. Most of their employees are members, leaders, sometimes pastors at local churches. A civil complaint alleges that there were at least 57 victims, but the prosecutor in his case estimates that the real number could be in the 'hundreds.'" It really goes to a persons head and I think makes them more inclined to ignore problems that come up or advice that conflicts with what they want to do. https://www.gofundme.com/pxs5dk Grownups shouldnt be getting naked with teenagers at camp. ", Hoffpauir now says, "I hate it with a passion" that Newman performed the marriage. I have ordered three of his cartoons for my home as well and have one in my living room. Of course there are some similarities and some overlap on some issues. They get to do the wrong or unfair things with no consequences. Curious, and from the tone of your comment, it doesnt sound like the same thing as a closed table where only members of that particular church are welcome to take communion. We are instructed to expose the evil that lies in the shadows. As a chid I was awed by the idea that God might actually be there. One of its two main campuses sits on 42 acres near Lake Shore Drive, across Lake Taneycomo from the lights of downtown Branson. The day the camp director found out, both counselors from that cabin were told to pack their bags and leave, and all of the parents of kids in the cabin were informed. There can be no excuse, no rationalization, no mitigating factors. Some people never have to confront it. Pattersons group threw out some critically-needed controls on their own power when they attacked (or allowed attack on) diversity and soul competency, I think. Its peaceful. It is a real distinction. They *want* to believe that there are people who stand head and shoulders above the rest, spiritually. What on earth??? They dont want to know the sordid long term details of what goes into the grooming process or the evil deeds. Criminal behavior to knowingly bring a man charged with paedophilia anywhere NEAR children . How can having a first class pervert not have significant, long term damage to boys??? Like independent house churches, they have no outside reality check if they go sour and/or abusive. ", Hoffpauir said, "For so many years, I knew (the abuse) was wrong, but I looked around, and no one else cared. Did CJ Mahaney in calling any discussion on molestations, gossip and preaching the doctrine of sin leveling? It all go so fancy. nwhiker Each side loves their insults instead of just dealing with an issue. When it comes to the kids, we cant afford not to. Thats what God-hating narcissists do who want something from youmaybe your soul. Joe graduated fromSouthern Methodist University, and was an assistant coach atTexas A&M Universitybefore taking the reins of Kanakuk. Not so in this world. Its voice, ever calling him to love and to do what is good and to avoid evil, sounds in his heart at the right moment. Those men get promised to be allowed to control, which is so opposite the example of Jesus. Sammy was moved to a contract pastor in 2007 after a spycam was allegedly found in the girls showers of a CentriFUGE Camp. Hes in the cesspool himself. He sold mini busts of himself at one convention back in the 90s(?). Pete began working at Kanakuk in 1995 as a counselor and then became a part of the K-Kountry leadership team in 1998. Heres a David Hayward cartoon in honor of Cecil the Lion killed by a dentist in Africa. But Im still a bit traumatized by the tour of his office, which had all manner of animal trophies. or something at some prayer meeting declaring him to be Gods choice, or words to that effect. But alas, Im too much the free-thinker and free-spirit to go the whole enchilada by conversion to Catholicism. Normal people do not have a hypnotic affect. But I can easily see how stuff could happen and I guess stuff could have been going on I didnt see. Because I knew someone who sent their kids there this year. And, of course we hit the malls. Based on what weve experienced (subtle and not-so-subtle emotional and spiritual abuse of our children at the hands of leaders) and experiences of friends (e.g., a prominent local church knowingly put a child sex offender who was on probation in charge of the high school youth group; he promptly started sexually harassing my daughters 16 year old best friend and my daughter personally witnessed him making cracks about taking care of her best friends boyfriend so as to get him out of the way so hed have free reign over her). As an old socialist (FDR style) who also believes in free dialogue, I like to be in the know about the ideas of those who dont believe as I believe. Velour wrote: Especially by a "Christian leader"??? They flatter and groom- not just their victims but everyone. I am trying to wrap my head around this Christian lawyer who claims to be a victim advocate. Yeah, Jesus did say that. When groups play down their lack of protecting children and punishing those who harmed them, they are acknowledging their incapacity to care about protecting and defending the most vulnerable of society. These two archetypes work very well as a tag team; in fleeing the Fanatic Persecutor, you take refuge with (and take the Mark of) the Slick Deceiver. After gas which will be about thirty bucks a week, so I will have made 38.00 take home, wow it puts it into perspective for me im making about .27 cents an hour take home after taxes and gas. We are talking about something I find very scary for innocents out there when it comes to Christian organizations. The leadership, that knowingly invites the sick predators near children, has an even GREATER responsibility for what happens as a result. I cried. We need to call it what it is: stealing a life for selfish perverted sexual gratification. When I took it all togetherthe victim advocate who wont sue churches unless they are JW or something, tithe comment and the other stuff already mentioned, my radar went off. I wont argue that there are some self-serving lawyers and judges. Not to mention they would probably disqualify half their leaders. When did that go by? And justice on earth as it is in heaven is something God has called me to. Camp officials reportedly rub elbows with powerful people, and have done so for a long time: In "Pure Excitement," a "righteous" guide to sex, love and dating for teenagers first published in 1996 by camp owner Joe White, White tells ofhis friendship with "an heir to the Coors brewery throne," Shane Coors. They are just normal people. When they are above laws, we are done. Boys club. Its one of the things that bothers me about GRACE that I have mentioned before. As a world leader among Christian summer camps, Kanakuk provides children withfun,safeandprofessionaloutdoor youth camping experiences that grow them spiritually, physically, emotionally and socially. Caring? "All I know is, he said, 'Don't worry about it. @ okrapod: We also have this notion that bad people will look bad, kind of like in Disney shows where the good are beautiful and the bad are ugly. -Newman had one-on-one Bible studies with boys in his hot tub. I think churches should use a program like Ministry Safe because they show you convicted molesters who look totally normal and give you things to watch out for. NOBODY will EVER believe yoU! and as backup support when things get sticky (Friends in High Places, like Facilier the Bokor in Disneys The Princess and the Frog.) They have built it up a lot more since then I understand. Any sensible person would want to protect an organization from liabilities. Even some small towns. Why is this so *hard* for churches to get right? Too many want a big show of everything, with celebrities and entertaining music. Newman was a long time employeeof the camp but, under his family man, jovial, Christian exterior, there lived a monster. In an effort to be completely honest,Dee got sucked into the hype for this camp and two of our children spent a few summers there. They dont take time off. Real leaders are humble and they are transparent. Not only do Pentecostals speak in tongues, they allow Lady preachers (gasp)! He saw Newman as a "very popular guy," well-liked, a "powerful, motivated, enthusiastic speaker," a "superstar.". I do know my brother literally cannot NOT manipulate. We no longer go to church, but we are the Church, weve just found other, safer ways of meeting together that dont involve narcissistic/dangerous/abusive men and their vicious little fiefdoms. Sorry about that, friend. '", He added, "It's given me a voice and has given me strength to keep talking and realizing this was wrong. She had a blast. Do you think they believe in Christ yet dont believe this one passage? Branson is a popular vacation site. And if that tolerance is not a clue to how it can be that knowing someone is a predator or likely is a predator is trumped by a bond stronger than honor or common sense. The requirements for receiving the Sacrament are (1) one must be a baptized christian and (2) one must have confessed and repented of known sin. They specialize in educating churches about abuse. Peter "Pete" Newmanpleaded guilty in Februarywithout a plea agreement to two counts of first-degree statutory sodomy, three counts of second-degree statutory sodomy, and three counts of enticement of a child. Id just point out that Jesus wasnt very reverent in the holy temple. But only he and Newman were present, he now recalls. In court documents filed in February 2013, Kanakuk says it will present testimony from expert witnesses that will cast doubt on the severity of the harm John Doe suffered as a 12-year-old sexual abuse victim. "They're going to different tables. Give me an atheist junkyard dog lawyer at that point. You are performing an invaluable public service. The problem is that people who abuse in such a fashion are SKILLED liars! Lydia, didnt the doctrine of soul competency take a hit when Patterson put the 2000 BF&M changes into play? Thats why they have to take over churches instead of planting new ones. I read their Bob Jones and ABWE reports. I hope you realize I am speaking of cover ups, hiring known abusers, etc. Survivors and ex-employees say the camp didn't do enough. '", He added, "Now, looking back, I know no grown man should be hanging out with a little kid like that.". Its just not worth the risk. It doesnt surprise me to hear this. That is beyond me. And I found something interesting: Historically there have been two archetypes of Antichrist: The Fanatic Persecutor and The Slick Deceiver (easily symbolized by The Beast and The False Prophet). It has no bearing on the mans crime and guilt!! . The electric bill is almost 300 this month due to the heat/humidity thank goodness its finally lowering in temp. If they cover up scandal to protect their damned reputations then they are false. Regards, I call it chosen ignorance. They arent consistent enough to be fundamentalists. What I came to see (up close and personal) is that they have convinced themselves (due to their success in their little kingdoms) that their ministry/message is blessed by God and nothing can be allowed to stain that. Life is a minefield. It truly is a strange religion; bizarrely skewed and with virtually no connection to everyday sane and practical reality. I am not against prevention. Its been 7 years since the man worked there and less since his conviction. If they came across as perverts, they would not get the trust they do. People do convert out from the kind of fundamentalism that Patterson comes from, but its more into some mainland Christian denomination or possibly Episcopalian or Anglican. He was in the temple courts, he was disrupting the precursors to worship, which included trading the evil Roman money for holy temple money so people could buy sacrificial animals. Most lawyers are not in a position financially to do it. Not a place that showed him perversion. No wonder he didnt care. The leadership? Just, because. The more education, the better. Our pride rebels. Kanakuk located in Branson, Missouri,hasbeen long known as the premier Christian camp in the UnitedStates and abroad. He is serving a 10-year sentence at a Jefferson City prison facility, Missouri Department of Corrections records show.). Our camo will be modest dresses when we infiltrate the conventions. One reason I dont trust him is because he thinks its a sin to sue the body of Christ (which, in Scripture he is referencing, is people not a non profit status institution) when the scriptures clarify not suing for trivial matters. As for Fellowship Memphiswhy am I not surprised? I talked to Keith.". I luv ice cream, but we dont need camo anything at Camp Backbone. He does indeed get it. Please check out what I actually said in the original comment. "Pretty much any chance I could get, I was trying to hang out with him," Dygert said. Kanakuk has long been popular with Dallas families, in part becauseNorthPark Center is one of the stops on its charter-bus route. But then I read an article in the (now defunct) Boston Phoenix in 2001, and it was about how the Catholic Church in Boston was using lawyers to basically destroy those who came forward with accounts of sexual abuse in the archdiocese. Fellowship has it. They promote Jesus, not their own brand. Our church is in an area that has a large proportion of Pentecostals. Then law firms got in on the action. Honestly, people told me the same thing, too, about being a missionary, even without knowing me. And I already used up my EL&P ration for this thread, Association of Related Churches Come to find out it was because they did not give tenure to a very Calvinist prof. Then these same Mohler appointed leaders, speaking for Ky baptists, threatened to take away the 1 million dollar a year subsidy to the college. Jesus is powerful to produce life in his true followers. yes, it came to me in a flash of brilliance that was a lot like the beginning of a migraine . So he started a witch hunt over charismata. and a follow up check up the day after. CEO and Board Chair, and his wife Debbie-Jo, Vice President, who inherited their roles from Joe's parents in the 1970s. Kanakuk plays a key role in Branson, itself a homespun tourism hub andglobal bastion of American-style conservative Christianity. Yes. To the spiritual superheroes that think they know better grow up. . I dont understand why Christian organizations feel that they have to reinvent the wheel or use Christian versions of products. If the problem is one of systems, then a non-punitive approach may be the best way to prevent problems in the future. Ive been there many times. Top/down authoritarian polity churches dont fire their leaders. I suppose that assumes that they were. A small independent Fellowship was what messed me up in the mid-Seventies. (Not mentioned was Colorado), -At a "Purity Conference" in Memphis, Newman engaged a group of boys in sex talk, telling them what it was like to "have sex with a woman now that he was married.". They also claimed no one at Gateway had been filmed on their property, which may have been technically true, but several Gateway student and leader victims were taped at offsite properties where overnight events were held. If a bunch of boy and girl kampers had been caught skinny dipping together without adult supervision (dont know if boys and girls have separate sessions at that camp, or are there at the same time), I wonder if they would have been sent home in disgrace? I saw the Dixie stampede, loved it, but Im a horse person. I dont think it works on this sort of problem that is ingrained in the institution. Youre either one of them or youre not, and its such an economic driver.". http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/women-abused-by-priest-brendan-smyth-took-own-lives-says-cleric-darcy-35011545.html. Plain English. They said no FUGE camp girls were hurt. It welcomes tens of thousands of campers to five overnight "kamps" each summer more than 500,000 to date, Kanakuk says. "We graduated college, we spent about 10 years away from Branson, just being free and clear of everything this town has to offer. 2023 www.news-leader.com. That way people dont have access to the big winners. . Hoffpauir grew up in Branson. I dont know how the congregation as a whole felt. The proof is in the fruit. Thats why I see it as a problem of the heart. Maybe we should really rethink that idea. Here is how he is listed in Wikipedia. Please pray for this because there are some really good job openings which I think would work great with my sons schedule and pay a really decent wage. It cant fix the heart of the problem, or the culture, or the systems. When I first got divorced I considered joining Second Pres. Because logic, reason, Christian love for the vulnerable and basic common sense all rebel against these actions! Pride. Gateway considered Sammy a pastor and even flew him out regularly for staff chapel and pastors meetings. I second that. And this rule, coupled with some others seemed to send a message they wanted to isolate the kids. Closing ranks against Those Heathens. Name on the Marquis? But Mohler did not start all this about soul competency as you can tell by what Lydia and I are saying-criticism of Mullins in not new apparently-or limited to calvinist thinking since my people were not calvinists. "If Its Not Sex Abuse, Its Money, and Nothing Says Spend and Keep Quiet About It Like the SBCs North American Mission Board" New TWW post. My understanding is that the general target of the Resurgence was to get rid of liberal excesses that had arisen, especially within seminaries. fear & insecurity, need and desire for money, power, & significance is behind it all. She's blaming other parents for not saying things, but they didn't even know. If we question, then we are labeled not trusting and that is one of the deadly sins. Not so in this world. I keep wondering if the leadership in such cases may be pedophiliac themselves but dont dare act it out, so they get their rocks off by listening to the JUICY testimonies of those who DO. This is apples and oranges. Almost as much as creating your own stained glass memorial and putting it on display while you are still in power. I dont think youre wrong for being skeptical. Most of these cases are taken on a contingency fee basis. it appears Sandy Wilson was to concerned about church disciplining someone challenging him Figures.. Not just a someone . The negotiations were a bruising experience. We think that during the liturgy of the altar, the bread and the wine become consecrated and after that point one should think and act in the light of the Real Presence in the Sacrament. He was fired and escorted off the premises that day. We have more options on the prevention side than we do in fixing the heart, so it makes sense to concentrate there. Killing just for pleasure and flaunting the evidence says a lot about those who do it. If I were in Texas, I would want to know what churches have paid for him to train or speak. It is horrible to hear detailed child grooming and molestation stories.but we must. So why do we need to keep being reminded that evil wears an attractive face? So I am probably too well aware of how this plays out for those trying to be heard. But also no, the idea that one would make independent decisions apart from something specific in scripture, that was pretty much a no no. But practically impossible. asserted the Newman scandalwas more widespread and systemic, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. church must be a relational tension-free zone (to be legit). Look for a saner, healthier, place. In court documents filed in February 2013, Kanakuksays it will present testimony from expert witnesses that will cast doubt on the severity of the harm John Doe suffered as a 12-year-old sexual abuse victim. These folks are not far from where they sat a three year old girl down across from her abuser and exhorted her to forgive him because shes a sinner too. Dygert said he wanted to take the case to the public courts, but the settlement process had taken an "unbelievably enormous toll" on a family member "who was really struggling with her mental health." Some people have to face it very young. I dont know. Im not providing a link because its obvious that Kamp Kanakuk did a lousy, horrible job of stopping abuse and is now trying to avoid the very real consequences of Joe Whites decisionmaking with regards to Peter Newman. :o), @ Lea: There is no more blatant picture of filth than one who would victimize and seek to corrupt innocent, vulnerable children. Brians comment up thread and the various responses to it have greatly reinforced the old adage of the wolf in sheeps clothing. I escorted my parents to Branson once. Before that conversation I would have considered Pete to be one of few examples of what living out the faith looked like. Prayer Request: Former CLCer will be having eye surgery tomorrow in the D.C. area A petition was created to force Kanakuk to release victims and their families of non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) that legally obstruct their testimonies against the camp. A former church that I attended, in which the pedophile is serving 13 years, claimed that the molester wasn't hired by the church. It is practically impossible and they know it. Be still and know that I am God? The major media companies wont report on these issues. I think Im just switching back and forth between the two. He also went onfather-son retreats with Newman. @ okrapod: . ", He added that the children of Kanakuk managers had, and have, a major role in the community's social life: "They were popular. White described Coors as a "well-buffed athlete," "tall and as handsome as a model.". To say his affect was hypnotic, would be an understatement. SHAME ON YOU, churches, para-churches, church schools anyone who dares claim the name of Christ, any and all who refuse to vigorously defend the weak and cast out the wolves among you. Finally one judge gets it. "We're going to try to renew our vows and do something different because of it. The Bible also says that were not to call good people evil and evil people good. Listen to the promptings. LawProf, Its considered very family friendly. If you mean that a person is personally responsible to God above all else, then certainly that concept was taught, and that is what I see on google. Im going to disagree with you on that. ", "And it was Pete," Hoffpauir said. I wonder how even more will be turned away from the church entirely because of this level of corruption. There he is alone with God Whose Voice echoes in his depths.. It is quite brief, but moving. This movement really appeals to men with mental issues and control issues, and I believe they go after young men who still havent studied the Bible much for themselves. It cannot be discerned by externals so much (as the theology it claims to hold, or denomination it belongs to) as it is discerned by what it actually produces over time. We need to shout this stuff from the mountaintop.. And expose these enablers for what they are Its like the sexual harassment protection racket. What else do they not believe? Our leadership programs, rigid hiring procedures, and low staff turn-over rates allow us to hiresummer camp staffthat are leaders in their schools, churches and communities. :o). And why not? We must honor them with listening. God doesnt have a very good track record picking presidential candidates this year. Yet, given his heart for victims expressed through articles and tweets, I think many do consider him a victims advocate. Maybe they see skinny dipping as good, clean fun and not abuse. Like independent house churches, they have no outside reality check if they go sour and/or abusive. I think its a healthy barrier against abuse. Like Steven Furticks mega chronicling the expense of how many breath mints Pastor and Staff consume each year while remaining silent on where the money for Pastors estate and mansion came from? One reason is that those positions are often filled right at the beginning. We are talking about someone who did not just tell lies but rather about someone whose whole being is a lie, to the very core of personhood. He was also a leader at Fellowship Memphis. so, what i was getting at is my observation for why church leaders accommodate questionable behavior in their staff and themselves (which, of course, in this context is criminal behavior to people who breath oxygenated air), instead of being tough. I wondered if I had missed something. that I have developed a worldview that acknowledges the power of sin and that no one is immune to the influence of the flesh. I this specific, it appears Sandy Wilson was to concerned about church disciplining someone challenging him Figures.. Dave (Eagle) wrote: Putting a building on a pedestal does not fall in that category. I would sue if I were in the position of these families. pete newman was an amazing man that obviously all of you did not know. I think this is the logical end of their theology. We were both students there and socialized in the same circles. Such is life sometimes. Not everything labeled church is promoting the Truth. Hoffpauir said that just after the call ended,hetold his wife for the first time that Newman sexually abused him for five years. (He is married and has children.). Church Discipline Peter Newman: Long time abuser/molester of campers at Kamp Kanakuk. So yes, in that sense people are taught bible, which is certainly training the conscience. Most judges throw them out. Its one of the things that bothers me about GRACE that I have mentioned before. ", In the book, White characterized masturbatingas "a release for a boy when his hormones get 'too hot to handle.' Thats okay, I saw them at the Western Kentucky State Fair 3rd row seat, front and center! I dont get it. (Notably, former KanakukcounselorLee Bradberrywas convictedof second-degree statutory sodomy, sexual misconduct and two counts of child molestation for abusing three underage male campers in 2011. Makes me sick! And special investigators that the organization pays. The 501(d) has since dissolved. 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